ep62 – Jerilynn Stephens

My guest this week is a ten-time Emmy nominated hairstylist, a four-time Guild Award winning hairstylist. She is the key hairstylist and department head hairstylist for shows such as The Voice, Shark Tank, and Legendary. She is a hair thinning and hair loss expert, and author of The 5 F Words to Manifesting Your Life.  I can’t wait to chat with Jerilynn Stephens about her career path in this interesting industry.

Jerilynn shares how she became a Hollywood hair and makeup artist in the 1990’s while living in Seattle. It was as if a light bulb went off and she realized that she wanted to work in TV and Film.

The next few years were spent working on making the career choices to get started. Jerilynn went to Vancouver Film School to learn makeup for Film. She worked on getting her headshots ready for her portfolio, and worked for almost free on any small film that came to her city. She did all the hard work and it took almost six years before she was ready to make the move to LA.

Listen to Jerilynn describe how her team works on over a hundred contestants in The Voice in only four days.

Jerilynn shares how during her cancer treatment, she still worked on The Voice and how her team supported her during and had her back when she needed to take time for treatments.

Complete Transcript

Chris Baran 0:00
How great would it be to get up close and personal with the beauty industry heroes? We love and admire and to ask them how did you learn to do what you do? I’m Chris Baran, a hairstylist and educator for 40 plus years, and I’m inviting all our heroes to chat and share the secrets of their success

Well, welcome to Head Cases. And I’m particularly excited about today’s guest and here’s why. I don’t think I’ve ever had somebody on head cases before that was Catch this. A 10 time Emmy nominated hairstylist, also a four time Guild Award winning hairstylist. She is the key hairstylist and department head hairstylist for catch this the voice Shark Tank Lip Sync Battle legendary VMA. And that’s just to name a few of them. She has also had film credits including protecting the King out of the Woods and Fielder’s Choice. She is a hair thinning and hair loss expert. She’s an educator for his engine and author of the 5 F words to manifesting your life. So let’s give it up for this week’s headcase Jerilynn Stephens. Jerilynn, it is an absolute absolute pleasure to have you on here. And I cannot wait to chat about things, because you’ve got a play to your business that I have never been involved with. So I just want to say first off, welcome. It’s great to have you here. Oh,

Jerilynn Stephens 1:39
thanks, Chris. I’m really excited to be here.

Chris Baran 1:42
Oh, that’s awesome. Well, so listen, I mean, what I want to do first off is, and this way I usually start to go with all of them is that I just want to half the time people just want to know, what’s the connection? How did you get into the hair industry? What’s your story did? Like did you start in something else? And then you ended up here? What was your story? How did how did start into here?

Jerilynn Stephens 2:04
Well, I’m growing up. My mom was a hairstylist and she actually didn’t work in a salon for very long she would kitchen cut, you know all of our hair, hair and perms and you know, back in the 80s and stuff. And I kind of always in the back of my head kept thinking that maybe being a hairstylist would be something I’d want to do. But I moved to Seattle in 1991. I was 21. And I started bartending and yeah, just getting into that lifestyle staying up all night, basically. And it was the 90s in Seattle, which was a thing. And so when I was about to turn 25, I decided like I didn’t, I knew I didn’t want to be a bartender the rest of my life. So, I mean, it was great. But yeah, so I went to Beauty School, and one of my girlfriends decided to go to be an esthetician. So we went to school together. And when we were in beauty school, her she was dating a grip, which is someone who works in the film industry. And in the 90s la brought a lot of films up to Seattle. So I got to walk on to set it I remember it was a Kevin Costner. It was Kevin Costner. And we, at that moment, I just walked onto the set. And I was like, This is what I want to do. And my friend introduced me to the hair and makeup team and the trailer and I went in the trailer and that everybody was so nice. And I was like, This is what I want to do. This is exactly what I want to do. So it’s like one of those moments in your life that you know, when you just all of a sudden it’s like a light bulb you’re like, that’s what I’m doing. So in beauty school is when I decided that this I wanted to be in TV and film. And so I just started you know, doing what I needed to do to get myself to LA. So

Chris Baran 4:11
you’re so you’re in Seattle, you’re you’re in hairdressing school, you get an invite you meet you go to meet and see the set etc. And now okay, that that was your pivotal moment. Yes, this is where I know what I know what I’m going to do. I’ve seen my path. Yeah, but so from that point on what what happened there that because I’m sure everybody knows. Everybody says Well, I want to be amazing to be Hollywood stylist and and get there but there had to be a path. How did you? How did you? I don’t know of any school that teaches it. So how did you prepare yourself for that? How did you get there?

Jerilynn Stephens 4:50
Well, okay, so I knew being a hair and makeup artist was essential. cuz I, by talking to the hair and makeup people in the trailer, they did tell me that it’s a union and there’s a hair, you know, you can be hair or makeup, not both. But you being a freelance artists, you want to be able to know how to do both. I mean, you’re kind of it’s, it’s to your advantage, because a lot of people want to hire one person to do hair and makeup. So I went to Vancouver Film School. And I drove once a week, up to Vancouver and went to makeup for film. And then I started putting together a portfolio working and doing whatever I could with photographers. And back then we actually had a portfolio. So you’d have to get the big pictures and your book. And so I started preparing that. And then also, any small film that came into town, I worked for basically nothing and just to get the experience, and did all of that hard work. So it took me about six years from the moment that I decided to do that to move to LA, because I knew that I was preparing for an opportunity. And I wanted to make sure that I was capable, you know, with hair makeup, my book ready to go. And so when I finally moved to LA it was 2001 Right after 911. And so, and honestly, I almost didn’t move then because I thought who that’s just a crazy time to move and to a big city like Los Angeles, but I went for it anyway. And I started working for Rudy’s barber shops, which originated in Seattle. So I found somebody who knew the owner and I contacted him and he hired me and I started working on Sunset and the barber shop. And I was also working for Bobbi Brown cosmetics in Century City Mall. So I was like putting my skills to work.

Chris Baran 7:06
That must have come in really handy because I know you also do like doing work for for Shark Tank, etc. You know, you got a lot of male hair that you do there a set and I’m sure on set. You have to be diverse. You can’t just know one genre. Well,

Jerilynn Stephens 7:23
especially No, that’s very important. And honestly working for yours in the barber shop was absolute. Like, as far as getting my speed that’s needed on set. I was trained under American Crew hairstylist for educational purposes. I think my men’s hair cutting is really good.

Chris Baran 7:49
How’s your face going on? Now they here’s

Jerilynn Stephens 7:51
the thing. I did take some private classes within the last four years, five years ago, I guess I mean, the pandemics before the pandemic. So like 2018 19, I took some private classes with Stacy Cutts, who’s Stacy Morris. She’s a Hollywood barber who’s amazing does a lot of big people. And I knew that I needed to learn textured hair, even though no one’s gonna want me to cut their hair. That’s a black singer, or, you know, they did they just don’t want me cutting their hair. But I will tell you what, if my barber doesn’t show up, I’m going to do it. And it’s gonna take me longer, and it won’t be as Chris, but it will get done. Yeah,

Chris Baran 8:41
yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s that’s there. And I mean, and I think that’s, like I always I always look at from the hair side of it. I think we’re in this swing right now where there’s a lot of women’s hair that are really long. And you know, and they’re pollyannish and all the great things that are going on with it. But the real cool shapes that are going on are men’s haircuts right now with all that going on. I just think that that’s just, you know, I’ve always been a short hair freak my whole life, you know, and I love that. But it’s there’s a different game. And so I want to what is kind of the first of all in film. There’s, I know from your portfolio, you’ve been a you’ve been the hairstylist on the set, you’ve been the key stylist and you’ve been the department head just for the listeners and people watching right now. What define them fours? What’s the difference between those three positions? Well,

Jerilynn Stephens 9:36
first of all, I didn’t start out where I’m at. I was you know, day playing, which is somebody who’s called in for extra heavier days and to bring your kit you know, your basic irons and brushes and combs and things and products and doing background and whatever I was needed to do. I got hired on the voice in 2011 As an additional hairstylist, which is somebody who’s just I’m here to do a job, right, what do you want me to do. And then by season three, the key hairstylist, so in any show like production, there’s usually not always, but usually, the hairstyle is team, the key and the department head. So I like to put it like this, the department head is like the president, the key is like the Vice President, then there’s your team. So I’m usually in charge of so I started sorry to backtrack, but season three, I then have the opportunity to be the key hairstylist. So the key is usually the one that keeps the department head stylist, organized, and in the know, and communicating between, you know, the teams and any information, just really helping out the department head because the department head is usually doing most of the communication with production producers, the network, and designing, you know, and making sure that the looks are achieved. So it’s kind of like that, at least on my shows.

Chris Baran 11:16
Yeah, yeah. And that’s, that’s really interesting. I’m trying to equate it. Because like, I’ve never worked on on a on a movie set or on a TV set before, but I worked on, you know, in corporate, corporate photoshoots, etc. And you have your corporate heads, and then you have somebody that’s the link that so there, you’re creating the vision, and then you have somebody who’s managing all the people that are doing it. And so you have a key there. And then you have the people that are doing the hair, and there’s got to be a cohesiveness of what’s the look from the top all the way down. So everybody’s nobody scrambling on stuff. Is that? Is that a fair assumption?

Jerilynn Stephens 11:54
For sure. But it’s also you have to think about makeup and the Wardrobe. And so it’s a collaboration, you know, usually the, you know, wardrobe designer, the makeup department head and myself, you know, on the voice, we absolutely try and communicate we have fallen in situations where it’s like, so much wardrobe, so much makeup, such big hair, and it’s like, oh my god, what just happened? You know,

Chris Baran 12:25
is there is there like, so walk into, like, I want to find out a couple things here like number one, what’s a tip? What was it? What’s a typical day like on the voice? And then I suppose, is like after that what what do you do? Like you’ve got a routine. But then what do you do when a screw up happens when, like you say it’s everything’s there all at once? Is there a you have to make changes on what happened? Are they done in a hurry?

Jerilynn Stephens 12:48
Well, it, okay, so a typical day on the voice, we usually do a lot of pre taping in the summer of the blinds that we do shoot the battles, the knockouts and the playoffs, and then we shoot the lives live. So it’s a little bit different. So when we’re pre taping things, we don’t really have much changes. So if the person walks out, the way they’re gonna walk out, that’s usually how they’re going to be seen. Because during the live shows, we’ll get them ready, we’ll have dress rehearsal, we’ll be able to make changes, if it doesn’t look good, or something needs to be tweaked a bit. And then we shoot the lives. The live show, so from five to seven, so you kind of you have that, you know, it’s it’s like episodic and film and stuff. You can make tweaks and changes because you all of a sudden, you have the UCM on camera and the director, somebody’s like, Oh, that’s not going to work. We need to change your hair. Right? So how

Chris Baran 13:54
long would you have? Like if somebody says, okay, the department head comes down says, Hey, I mean, I know what I you know, from working corporate, they’ll they’ll come up and they say, it’s nice, but what about this? And do they give you that? Or they give you direction? Or they just say, Hey, I’m not sure I’m not really keen on it. What would you do? How does that process work? Okay,

Jerilynn Stephens 14:15
on the voice, I have a creative producer. That’s my direct link. And she might usually everything comes out fabulous, because we’ve been doing this for so many seasons, but and she really believes in my creativity and collaboration. So there’s not much of that going on. Occasionally. She will, you know, say Hey, someone so is going to be in this outfit. I think her hair should be up. And then I will usually send her inspiration photos of what I think would happen and then I talked to the artist who’s singing and say, Hey, what do you think about this because the collar on this dress or whatever, you know out like that. So it’s but it’s not too much of that. Got it?

Chris Baran 15:04
Do you so like is there, I’m sure that you probably have talent that’s coming on that they’re just so excited to be there, that it’s whatever you say goes. But do you have people that will, you know, they’ll they get their own tweaks and they want, they want what they want and they balk maybe at anything does that happen? 100%,

Jerilynn Stephens 15:26
especially these days with, you know, all of this social media all everybody’s a makeup artist, and everybody is a hairstylist these days too. And, you know, a lot of people have had time, especially if you’re a performer. And I encourage, like, learn everything you can during your time with us on the voice because I want you to go out in the world, and I want you to look amazing, you know, just like anybody who sits in our chair, in the salon, it’s like, we want to teach them how to blow dry their hair or curl their hair so that they can look great on their own. It’s the same thing on the voice. But everybody does come in usually with a way that they do their hair or makeup. And then once they trust us, usually during the MMA battles, knockouts, they’ll allow like more like, hey, I really think we should blah, blah, blah, you know? And then they’re like, all right, whatever you think Geralyn. Yeah,

Chris Baran 16:28
it’s it. Is it really it just the same as a salon, isn’t it? It’s trust based, you know, and they’ve got to know they, once they figure out you got their best interest at mines? Because Can you just talk to a minute for people out there? Because I, I think that there’s a correlation between what you do on set time because on TV, hair looks different in real life than what it does on your on your TV set. It’s the same as like a photograph, everything gets, you know, like everything is a bit smaller than you really think it is. And so talk to us a little bit about that. What what what do you like, there’s got there’s differences and what what is the differences that you have to apply when you’re doing hair for television?

Jerilynn Stephens 17:10
Well, for art, well, for instance, for the voice, our backlighting on the stage is insane. It literally drives me crazy half the time. Because every single fly away from the back, I don’t know why. I mean, it’s gorgeous lighting. Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. But you see every single flyaway. So if somebody wants big curly hair, like Diana Ross and like, you know, super 80s that I love, but I always tell my stylists and the contestant, we need to control the top layer, the perimeter all the way around this as big as you want. But then let’s go through and we want to control all of this fuzz on top. And then I tell the contestant, when you’re getting nervous, and you’re like fidgeting with your hair all the time. You need to not touch that top layer. Like I want you to just like go under How about not even touch your hair? Okay, after we’ve touched it, just don’t touch. But if you do if you feel like you have to make sure it’s not the top layer. Yeah,

Chris Baran 18:23
yeah, just go on stage, pick your nose instead. You know, it’s been so much easier.

Jerilynn Stephens 18:29
But as far as like other like films and things that I’ve been on, you know, generally it’s mostly natural hair too. So like, if you look at like Jennifer Aniston, her hair is always very natural in her movies. You know, it just, that’s the way she is. You always know Jennifer’s gonna have some flyaways and it’s not gonna be perfect. And, you know, that’s, I can appreciate that. But it also like I’m like, oh.

Because I do it.

Chris Baran 19:04
Yeah, it’s also I mean, just anecdotally is that I know, we had to do a whole segment at symposium where we had to do that friend’s thing where we had, like we had whatever it was like 14 or more people that we all had in Jennifer Aniston wigs from the you know, looking like the original and so we were we were sick of them we were sick of it now and then now we noticed that we’re it’s coming back in again and I’m going oh good god please tell me that I didn’t have a part and bring that back. Anyway that aside, that there is difference when you’re working with music, like music tends to be a little bit more pushed at the hair can get a little bit more the the clothing is a bit more than movie where you’re trying to you’re trying to make look like it happens everyday life. Yeah,

Jerilynn Stephens 19:53
yes, yes. I mean, we’re performance looks good. Yeah, right. Even during In the reality type band auditions that they do on camera, I try and tell my team like not too much, not too much. But then the contestant or the artist is like, Oh, but I would like this. And you know, and then sometimes we get so excited that we want it. And then I’m like, that was too much. Yeah.

Chris Baran 20:20
And is that because you want to build a progression in the show? Is that the that’s the rationale. Yeah,

Jerilynn Stephens 20:26
yeah, yeah, the blinds, literally, I want them to be them. Like the blinds, they come in, hair and makeup done, we do a polish up, we shoot that three days in a row, like three days of shooting for that one day. Because they’ll have their interview, they’ll have their friends and family interview, then they’ll have their Blind Audition. So three different days, they have to look same. So that, you know, can change slightly, but not too much. But we want them to come as they are so that we don’t create somebody they aren’t. Right. Right.

Chris Baran 21:06
So so the how long, you know this, and again, just I think everybody sees this one hour episode. And if you’ve got a good eye, you can see that that the judges sometimes are wearing different outfits. So you know that this is taking over an extended period of time, not just on that hour. But how long so how what’s the day? Like? Like, are you when you start like when do you start in the morning, if you’re shooting the blinds for say, if you’re shooting the blinds, what, when do you start? And how long and how many contestants do they go through in a day?

Jerilynn Stephens 21:40
Well, we usually start around 100 contestants for a season of blinds, we’ll put it through like four days of interview, so about 3020 to 20 to 30 each day, it will depend on how many miners there are as well, because they’re on a time crunch. So we’ll shoot about 20 to 30 people per day there. And then the other days of the the interview, I’m sorry, the friends and family interviews and things like that with Carson, that could be staggered over just a couple of days where we’re really producing them out quickly. Because it’s more of a big room have that they need to fill. But the blind audition day, their actual day that they’ve come for or came for is we usually start around 7am. And to get through. Gosh, I think it’s about 20 people a day. Yeah, yeah. And 18 to 20. And then they start shooting around 1230. So we’ll get through like a first group, we usually have three groups. So we’ll get through first group, and then they’ll start like more reality like jitters, Oh, I’m so nervous, I’m about to go out. And literally, they’re gonna go out like four hours later. And then the next group comes in, we get them ready, they do that and then they start the show. And then we get the third group after lunch and send them out.

Chris Baran 23:16
That’s awesome. Because I hear from on a movie set that movie set, you might be starting at three or four o’clock in the morning because they’re going to be shooting, and then you make changes all day. So this is a bit different, where you’ve got your block of time, you can work that through how many people would like when you’re when you’re the department head and you’re working on, say, the blinds or whatever, and you’ve got 20 people coming in how many staff do you have? working there? I’m talking more from a hair perspective.

Jerilynn Stephens 23:45
Yeah, no, I usually get about four people. In the morning, like in we have different Okay, so we have a location that we get everybody ready. And then we have an onstage last looks person. So I usually get like four people in the you know, to get them ready. And that usually consists of a barber myself my key, and then usually somebody who specializes in textured hair. So I’ll usually have us for and then I’ll have somebody at stage who is can do all textures of hair. And for their last looks.

Chris Baran 24:31
Yeah, they’re doing the finals before they walk on there.

Jerilynn Stephens 24:35
And I always tell my team I’m like, first of all last looks is the most important person. Okay, the most important person you are the last person to see these people, no matter what we’ve done in the morning. They’ve been through interviews and walking around and going to the bathroom and eating lunch and so they’re the really the most important person before they hit the stage. Yeah,

Chris Baran 24:58
yeah. That’s wild. The so the end, like we’ve been talking about, and we’re probably going to be jumping around a little bit here, but I just the, you’ve worked on many sets. But how is there a? Is there much of a difference from show to show? Like when I know when you’re on the on the voice? Or? I’m sure there’s probably there’s a little bit less work to do on Shark Tank, etc. Because there’s not as many people how does that work? Does it?

Jerilynn Stephens 25:26
Yeah, I mean, it depends on the show. I mean, obviously, Shark Tank I, our busy time is like from 7am until nine, that’s when we’re getting all of them ready. Um, and then it’s just a touch up in between each pitch, you know, each on entrepreneur. And then like the show legendary that I had for a couple seasons, it has not come back. What was probably my most creative, fun show, it was like an LGBTQ plus, we had many wigs, performance looks and incredible, I learned so much. I mean, our whole team just learned so much on that show and like taught ourselves how to make a wig, stay on a bald head and have a head drop, right? So it’s, it’s like insane, or it was so much fun. I wish it would come back.

Chris Baran 26:20
So what did you hear about that? Now you got my curiosity up? How so? Because I’ve worked with wigs. I’ve worked with bald caps. I’ve worked with wigs on bald caps, and they haven’t had to do head tosses and so on. And I know what I’ve been taught to do, how would What were you taught to do? How do you keep the wig on a bald head?

Jerilynn Stephens 26:39
Well, we figured out is this going to, I mean, this is our technique. And we actually took ace bandage, put little drops of the glue for skin around, wrap the ace bandage around, and then glue the ace bandage to itself. Then we would put the wig on and put I’m sorry, then put the wig cap and then put the wig on. And then we would take roller pins, the long ones, and criss cross them underneath the ace bandage through the wig, criss cross Lachman, and this is what I always tell people, every bobby pin you put in someone’s hair, or head has to have a purpose. Don’t shove them in. Because that does nothing, especially because we do a lot of dancers to on our show. Every bobby pin has to have a purpose like lock get together. And so yeah, going up underneath the ace bandage, criss crossing and all the way around their head, and then putting some pins through the cap it’s as as well. I mean, it was unbelievable. I think we lost just one wig off ahead.

Chris Baran 28:03
I remember I remember we I remember doing a show, we’re in Vegas. And we had all these wigs on. And we had a whole team of people that were that you had to put the wigs on. And we taught we taught Look, here’s where your pins go. Because we have to make three, we have three minutes to make a change on hair, makeup and wardrobe before they go back on again. So everybody’s got to know where the pins are, how they come out of the head. And I remember that we had the dancers going through this rigorous dance routine. And we had just like normal wigs on they weren’t anything that had tremendous amount of weight. But I just remember she did a first head toss. And the wig ended up in the audience. And the first thing we turned from what, who put that we go on? It’s just It’s devastating. It’s devastating as the as the production team. I

Jerilynn Stephens 28:52
mean, I have to say that the time that it did come off, it was like probably I had never seen so much spinning and head throwing and like dropping to the floor. And I was just like, Oh my God. There’s nothing you can do

Chris Baran 29:08
about trying to the Cross I find works on occasion, but not always. Yeah. With the wig that we get, well, we had models that were coming in and we had, we had made these it was like bald caps that we had on the heads. You know, I know there’s probably a technical team name for them, but I would have forgotten but bald caps. And we had amazing makeup crew that could put them on match and the face are phenomenal. But we had to put Mohawks on them. You know so it wasn’t like we couldn’t show like Ace bandages etc. And so we’re trying to figure out how the hell do we keep this Mohawk or these pieces on when you you still want part of the bald cap showing. And so somebody told us that we had carpet tape. So we used it, you know, the two sided carpet tape that you use for putting your floor down. And we tried that, and then it and the carpet tape wouldn’t stick to the latex. So and then we and I can’t remember we had somebody had finally got a glue type that we could glue loot latex to these pieces. But the I mean, by the time we were done the piece, the hairpiece was wrecked, because you had to you literally had to glue the piece onto it. So the bases were all wrecked, etcetera. But they stay down. Thank God. So we’re still searching for the perfect way to do it. But I think everybody has to just go, don’t you everybody’s got to go through that learning experience. And you have to have the screw ups that happen. And so you can find out what works and what didn’t work. Well. And

Jerilynn Stephens 30:53
you know that. I mean, speaking of which, you know, how we get asked, I mean, in our industry to do so, things that you’re like, I’ve never heard like, okay, when I get asked by a producer or something like here’s what we want, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, Okay, no problem. And then I’m like calling, we’re okay, what the hell, I was gonna do this. Okay, and then then we just like all start collaborating. And then somebody’s got this idea. And then we’re like, yes, that’s okay. Let’s try that. I mean, that’s exactly what we did on Legendary too. I mean, how are we going to just oh, so and so they said that they did something horrible about, you know, and so, yeah, I mean, it I made and then another situation was, we want our wigs to look like rubber, like a wood, rubber wood. So like a Marinette doll. And I was like, Okay, no problem. And then, you know, Amazon had some rubber wigs stuff like the Superman or whatever. And I’m like, that’s not going to work. So my, my key Kimmy Messina shirt and I went to props. And we’re like, Hey, do you have any ideas? We need to make this way. So it was a red bob look like wood, or rubber or something? And he’s like, What about?

Oh my god.

I just lost the it’s from the craft store. But

Chris Baran 32:28
what ModPodge? Yes,

Jerilynn Stephens 32:30
ma’am. So what we did first is we wet the wig. We put KY jelly and got to be glue. Got the shape. Right, then we wanted then we use the Modge Podge. I mean, this is several hours of drying and a couple of days it took her wig. So then we modge podged it and it was gorgeous. Gorgeous. We did like four or five wigs like that. Oh my god. But that’s what it takes. It’s like the collaboration in the in the guy and props was like, make sure you don’t put this on the styrofoam. It’s gonna melt it.

Chris Baran 33:04
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I don’t That’s what I think that most people don’t understand, including probably people that are asking for it is that we always say that like 75 to 85% of your time in order to get a look is research on how to do the damn look. You know, so if you you know, like we’ve always had for the for into me, I’m the avant garde guy. I just love amonkar I love making pieces and wigs and and such and I and but if people don’t understand how long it takes, like some wigs that you make might take you like four or five days just to figure out how to do it. And then you got to make the wig.

Jerilynn Stephens 33:43
So do you think that do you have an easier time doing that on human hair or synthetic?

Chris Baran 33:50
Oh, well, it depends for me. I like if I’m working with with like did just did a shoot and I just wanted to I wanted to use the you know it’s called hoarfrost. I know it’s like what you see on trees it looks crystallized, etc. Yes. And I find that way I mean yeah, you could do it with with real hair but it’s really expensive. So we just use obviously from a budgetary standpoint, we just use a care it’s already colored, it’s already the shape you want it and you can still there is ways of coloring it with. With ink. It’s called the ink. It’s an ink dye that you can actually color synthetic hair with but we you know I just we just cut it up and then I found and it’s like you said the prop dyes. We found the the we had to glue it together with we did it with hairspray, sprinkle it on hairspray sprinkling on and we tried glue that you can use this the spray glue and it spits so you get these lumps in it. And and a friend of mine who works with and works on Movie sets. He said look at he went to the prop guy. And he said, we use this, this glue that you can get. It’s called what 369359 or something like that. I can’t remember the numbers, but you can get at Ace Hardware. And that’s what the prop guys make all the fake buildings out of that they blow up. And so we use that and you can spray it on hair, it glues it in place, and it doesn’t spit as much. You get the occasional one, but it doesn’t hold it rock hard, but you can take really delicate things and now move around in them. So it’s fun. Yeah, it’s to me that’s, that’s my life. I just, that’s what I that’s my therapy. I love doing that. But

Jerilynn Stephens 35:39
I was just gonna say I found for performance type looks. Yeah. synthetic wigs. So much easier to work with because they hold the style. Yeah,

Chris Baran 35:48
yeah. Yeah. Synthetic is on it’s always fun and less expensive. Yeah.

Jerilynn Stephens 35:53
And you’ll learn how to style it. It’s a game changer. Yeah,

Chris Baran 35:59
yeah. So because you’ve got to use you got to use heat or steam or not necessarily heat makes you think that you’re using a curling iron, but you got to use, you know, steam and things such that that set them we like we’ll use when we have to make curl, we’ll buy the curly hair. And then we just wrap it around darling, or whatever we’d to make whatever shape, we just throw it in a puck in like, we just get a bucket with boiled water, we put it in there. And then we just throw the throw the piece in there. And then take it out, run under the cold water and let them dry and you’ve got whatever shape you want. And this just phenomenal stuff to work with. And to me, that’s what when you have to work with a medium, that’s not what you’re used to. That’s what really pushes you. And that’s what makes it fun. You know, because you’re trying to figure stuff out that hasn’t been done before. And I think that’s to me, that’s what, that’s why I take my hat off to some of the stuff you do, because it’s phenomenal.

Jerilynn Stephens 36:52
Thank you.

Chris Baran 36:55
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Jerilynn Stephens 38:07
all the time, right? I mean, are we talking about just any show? Yeah. So the the stuff that we can pull out of are just like, boxes, right? It’s like, oh my gosh, this one time, though, on Legendary, there was a flamingo she wants. She wanted to be a flamingo. And so, but the wardrobe stylist for some reason was like I have to make the the flamingo the headpiece, I was like okay. All right. Well, the headpiece is not equipped to be doing back drops and things like that. And she was like, I can’t wear this Geralyn you have to help me figure something out. And I was trying to figure it out. I’m like, Ah, and then like, hold on, hold on. I’m like, I have a feather wig. I have a feather weight. And I’m like, Oh, it’s right here. And I’m like, okay, shake it out. Okay, put it on, spray it pink. And then we’re going to add some like crystal and then the and we did that all in like 20 minutes. And then on the head, pinned it in and oh my god, she loved her hair, her hair, her feathers. I was just like stuff like that just makes me excited to just like, I mean, I literally have a store of like, wigs and gems and stuff for the hair just because you know, years and years and years, you accumulate a lot of stuff. So it was just amazing. That was super fun on the voice. A funny moment was there was a top not been thingy that one of my hairstylist did and as the It proved her performance. She’s bouncing and jumping and bouncing. And that thing keeps getting bigger and bigger and taller and taller and taller, like Marge. I was like, Oh, we just we have a sourdough loaf of bread on her. Got you have to laugh out. It’s yeah, you know why we’re not perfect. I mean, I try and make every single episode that we shoot no matter what it is. I want it to be a nomination, right? Like, I want everybody to think like that. Like, I want it to be as perfect as you can. But you know, stuff happens. Yeah, yeah,

Chris Baran 40:42
well, stuff is a good word. There’s other words for but we’ll leave it at stuff. You know. And it’s funny, you know, like, I remember to this to a point, I remember how that when you’re talking about the hair growing, and especially when they’re doing a performance and, and, you know, we all know that when we’re creating stuff there. They all fit together the hair, the makeup, the wardrobe, the talent. But I remember sambia said this to me one time, because I was saying, you know, sometimes when I go to do shows, I’ll I’ll write down what did I wear. And so I don’t wear the same thing when I when I go into a similar venue. And he said, she said, You know what? He says, Here’s my philosophy is if you’re wearing if people can tell what you wore, from one time to the other, then maybe you should pick up your game so that they’re not looking at your wardrobe. They’re listening to what you say and what you do. Good. So hopefully, the talent went on like gangbusters, and then they didn’t even notice that happen that the mess ups had happened with the hair. But that’s so now to that point, though. Now I want to take that back. When they come is there a time because we always say as hairdressers, we’ve got all these hats that we wear and with the stylist and with a counselor and with a psychiatrist, and the marriage counselor, and all of that kind of thing. Does all of that come into play when you’re doing the like you have several hats you have to wear as well, dealing with the talent that’s nervous dealing with the you know, if you’re dealing with new people that you and your team that haven’t you haven’t worked with before, or whatever, is that, that come into play? Yeah,

Jerilynn Stephens 42:21
I mean, I, I mean, I’m, you know, to the younger minors, I’m kind of their second mom, you know, away from home. And, you know, a lot of kids deal with anxiety, and I have a 16 year old as well. So it’s like, you know, working with these teenagers and stuff and all you know, social media and everything that they go through. I’m just kind of there for I’ve got lavender oil, like hair, you to relax while I do your hair. Just take some breaths, you know, cuz you that happens, right? I just want to like squeeze on them and just tell them, You’re great, you know, don’t worry. And as far as my team, like, I’m always ready to set you up for success. So why are you know, we had a new hairstylist during our lives. That’s a daughter of one of my seasoned hairstylist that I’ve had on the show, and I just told her, I’m like, Listen, you can curl hair, you know what to do. Here’s what we’re gonna do. I’m like, Hey, everybody, this is so and so. She’s never worked a live show. Let’s so that we just all like lifted her and and took you know, it’s like, we do we teach you, I want you to be successful. Because if you’re successful, I’m successful.

Chris Baran 43:48
Yeah, well, congratulations, you know, because I, you know, I think that we’ve all heard and whether it’s true or not, we’ve always heard about Hollywood, and everybody has this thing about backstabbing, backbiting, and, and trying to claw your way to the top by, you know, and what I love, what you just said there was like, is that you’ve got somebody new and you’re supporting them, and you’re making sure that they grow. And, you know, I think that there’s, you get so much farther ahead with some kindness and helping people than you do with making sure that they fail. You know, it’s, you know, congratulations and thank you for that. I just think it’s, it’s just admirable. I love that trade and people.

Jerilynn Stephens 44:29
I think that you know, you are who you attract, right? Or you attract who you are. And I think that over the last, I mean, I’ve been doing the voice for, like 13 years, and congratulations. Thank you. 25 seasons, so it’s like, over the time, it’s like, you know, you just want to attract people who don’t want to stab you in the back who appreciate, you know, Hey, you have you know, I’m a mom, I have a son, he plays baseball, right? There’s something I can do to help you get to where you need to go by a certain time and try and help you because this business is brutal. It’s long hours, it some people work five days a week or more. And it’s like whatever we can do, especially as moms, right to be able to just like, hey, go, we’re good. Now. Everybody’s ready. We can have the touchups done. And you get to your kids volleyball game. Yeah.

Chris Baran 45:40
Yeah, that see that? I’ll cover you if you cover me. I’m gonna love that. What? So but now, just to give us some frame of reference for the voice? How many days out of the year? Because it’s how many sessions? How many? I can’t remember how many sessions that is how many segments? Because a lot of shows are 13. But I think that one’s way more than 13.

Jerilynn Stephens 46:05
Oh, God, I don’t

Chris Baran 46:05
even know. Yeah, but how many? So how many days out of the year? Would you be spending on the voice just on that one show?

Jerilynn Stephens 46:15
Oh, okay. Well, we just started shooting two seasons at once last summer. And we’re going to do it again this summer. Because, you know, they wanted to budget, right? They wanted to save money. So they figured let’s just set up the blind stages once for both seasons that year, the then the battles once. And so what we did last summer, and I think we’re going to mirror it about the same as we shot. You know, the blind auditions. It’s usually per season about probably nine days per season. Wow. For the blinds, and then the battles, to reality days to shoot. So like four to five I think, for the battles. It’s not a lot of days. Oh, really? I

Chris Baran 47:07
was thinking God, you must be there. Like, you know, three, four months working on this show, then? Well, it is.

Jerilynn Stephens 47:14
I mean, we start shooting shooting mid June. Yeah. And then through the very beginning of October. Yeah. Um, but it’s like, not Monday through Friday. It’s like, we might have even a week off or two here in there. And then we had seven weeks off from October, beginning of October till we shot the live shows in December. Yeah. So it’s, it’s not. It’s not like, every day.

Chris Baran 47:49
So you I mean, this is I mean, first of all, I have to say, You’re a machine. Because I mean, you not only do you do that you’re an educator, your mom, I went on your website and I knows you. I can make I can make a booking to get my hair done with you, sir. Obviously, in the salon. What the hell do you get all the time? Like I said, You’re a machine.

Jerilynn Stephens 48:10
I mean, honestly, I’m kind of, well, I’m kind of transitioning my career a bit into the film industry is kind of changing a bit. A lot of stuff is leaving. And okay, so I’m 54 and I figure I have what 10 to 12 years left of I’ll never retire. I’ll tell you that right now. But it’s like, supposedly, like, basically my husband has nine years left in the business until we’re like fully invested. So hands down nine years, we’re, that’s where we’re going. But it’s like I want to transition my career into hair thinning hair loss. I’m an educator for xenogenic Because I didn’t that’s a whole story in itself right there. It’s like my I was I’m also a cancer survivor. So it that took me to a place of realizing women need help when their hair grows back with their new textures with scalp health, like this has been you know, the the worst thing in my life has now been the best thing in my life of taking that and really utilizing what I went through to help other women and then going through menopausal hair thinning. COVID hair thinning. People are now taking injections for weight loss. They may not know it, but they’re about to lose their hair. Oh, really? Yes. There’s so much hair thinning going on that. For me. I wanted to become an expert. And so the product line that I started working for now, I was like what’s up better way to become an expert is to become an educator get educated by the best. So that’s what I’m doing. It’s plant based, which was really important for me with going through chemo and cancer and all of that. So that’s where we’re headed. Coming

Chris Baran 50:15
to, and want to take a step back on that because firstly is I think that’s something that everybody has been touched by. And, and I know you and I chatted a little bit about it just before we got on onto the recording, but the is it did I have it right? And when it because I went through some of your your blogs? And did you actually go through it twice where you had it twice you went through with hair loss, etc? Was or did I read that wrong?

Jerilynn Stephens 50:44
No, just once. I went through six, chemo sessions, cycles. And in my blog, I think what you might be thinking about is like, I have tips and tricks that I learned through chemo to help me with the pain and stuff and tiredness and whatnot, you get a metal taste in your mouth. I realized early on like don’t use silverware, get rid of my steel, travel mugs, you know, the stainless steel on the inside, I got a class travel mug and started using bamboo forks and knives and things like that and paper plates and, and so it just there’s little tips that I would put in those that I discovered to share with other people because some people don’t realize like that metal tastes like just the fork you’re using is like a producer.

Chris Baran 51:38
I first of all, just want to congratulate you on that. Because I just think that the more people that can, you know, God bless I’ve not had I’ve not had it. I’m hoping that I don’t but God knows what it’s got in store for me. But I love the fact that you blogged about it. And to me is that when you can go through that and you can help other people with that. I I just think that’s so admirable. And I and I think but did that happen? Did that when you had the cancer did it? Did that happen? While you were working on set? It? Is it? Wow. Yeah,

Jerilynn Stephens 52:14
I was on Legendary. Legendary, which is the way LGBTQ plus season two and three. Season One was in Connecticut, we didn’t have anything to do with that. So Season Two. It’s such a busy show. And I was working four days a week. And it I thought, Oh, I think I’m not drinking enough water. Or maybe I shouldn’t hold my pee is long. And because literally I’d be like two hours later on, I gotta go the bathroom. And you know, like I have to I have to walk away. And so all of this body stuff was going on and bloating. And then I started getting full really quickly. And I was like something’s wrong. And in the middle of the night. So

Chris Baran 53:02
these were things that the prior that these were the things to take note of

Jerilynn Stephens 53:08
these things are what put me to the doctor. Yeah. And then had the ultrasound. The CT scan realized I had cancer, then the show ended. So the show ended wrapped up. I had my surgery the following week. So it was kind of like the last two weeks of that show, I realized that I had a mass in my abdomen. And then when they we had the surgery, but here’s the beautiful thing. When I went through chemo, I was on the voice. So in so I asked my doctor, I go listen, okay, so I’m supposed to get chemo treatment this day. Now the voice starts on this day. I’m like, can we just push it a little bit? So he’s like, No. I’m like, because I needed to line up like this. No, I was like, Okay, so the voice is family. Right? So everybody took care of me. I were, you know, literally day 12 After my first treatment hair started coming out in clumps. I wore wigs to work. I had one that looked like my hair and which I actually didn’t even wear that that much. But I wore a wig to work so that people didn’t feel sorry for me. Right, you know, but I would take the five days off that I didn’t feel good. And my team just had my back.

Chris Baran 54:31
Yeah. Well, that’s that’s nice about when you’re working with the same people all the time. Yeah, you don’t have to worry because you know that they can handle it. Yeah.

Jerilynn Stephens 54:39
Yeah, it was. It was a really great show to be on during that time. I’m glad I was on the voice. Yeah.

Chris Baran 54:47
Because I think you hear so much about that. That what I it makes me like the show even more than I do, because I’m a big fan of the show. But I like it because to me it’s about your team but also Oh, I’m sure that corporate the producers and everything must known and I’m so happy that they, you know, worked along, and they allowed you to do that it’s

Jerilynn Stephens 55:10
yeah, they were just like, whatever I’m like my doctor said, you know, working actually is healing, if I love it, and I love it. So they’re like, whatever you need, you know. And we were all in mass to this was 2021. So I felt really safe. You know? And that’s,

Chris Baran 55:28
that’s, that’s, I’m really excited. I’m really happy about that. And I’m the, I’m the, if you had to give, I mean, I think that everybody always, how do I say this? Being involved, I’m involved in beauty schools as well. And one of the sell points that we have, for the beauty schools right now is the fact of the industry and where you can go in our industry is so diverse, you know, you can go into so many things just right, from session styling to, you know, doing photoshoots to, you know, to film work. Now, but because that’s, I mean, let’s face it, if if you had to talk about somebody that’s an expert in that area, that’s you. So if you had to say that there was, you know, whatever, three or a number of traits that you have to have, if you want to be a successful hairstylist, in the Hollywood TV film game, what would you say that those were?

Jerilynn Stephens 56:29
Oh, gosh, while I mean, always educate, keep educating. And then a big one that I tell any of my team, it’s like, leave your ego at the door. And, you know, come in, let’s This is one of the only shows the voice that well, not the only all my shows, we kind of do this, but like we always are working like one head is not just one person’s, like, you might have two or three people in on it. And everybody’s helping each other. So leave your ego at the door. I think continued education. You know, especially I hate to say this, but as I’m getting older, I never want these younger 20s 30s You know, artists contestants, thinking like, I’m the old lady or something. I always want to be fast, like trending forward, and what’s new, and never, never stuck.

Chris Baran 57:31
Yeah. Yeah. And another thing that I loved, I read us, something you said was, and I’m gonna have to paraphrase, because I remember it exactly. But you said that you have to be likable. And and that you you can just you’re willing to do whatever it takes. And I think you alluded to that before. And when we at the very beginning when we talked about oh, yeah, no, that’s no problem. Even though in the back, you’re screaming like crazy trying to figure out what is like, is it how important is that to?

Jerilynn Stephens 58:05
I mean, to be likable, yeah, everything when you’re working next to me for 12 hours, I gotta like you, and I can teach you, whatever it is. But I want you to be likable. I want you to be helpful. I want you to go beyond, you know, helping each other. Yeah, because everything’s teachable. You know, if you really are open to it,

Chris Baran 58:35
and like you said, if you can leave the ego out of it. So if you’re in a time crunch, and you’re having a, having a problem doing a head of hair, I think that’s when you gotta go look at I can figure this out in an hour or two, but we don’t have an hour to cut somebody. You know, to me, I always love it. When somebody says, Look, I’m having a problem. Can you help me? And then you can get it done? 100%

Jerilynn Stephens 58:55
I mean, that happened just like last season, one of my hair stylists was trying to do an update thingy, you know, and, and she’s like, she comes in to my, my area where I’m at. And she’s like, Geralyn, she’s like, I don’t know what’s going on. I just, it’s not looking good. I don’t know what’s going on. She goes, can you just do it? So I just went in there. And it just took a sec, as you know, anybody could have gone in there, right? But I went in there and I was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, God, what do you do like that? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it just we needed a second set of hands. Sometimes we just get like stuck. When you just have to like, be like, Hey, can someone over here help me? Yeah. Isn’t

Chris Baran 59:36
it true though, you can get to the point where you get it. I always call it you’re in your head. You know, if you’re in your head, if you’re saying this isn’t going right, and then it goes from bad to worse. And you get in your head and you can’t think of anything that you probably know to do because you get in your head as opposed to your heart. And you come up and you go oh, well it’s like this and then number one, they fix it. Number two, they learned some thing, you know, and, and then number three, they the it worked at the end of the game. So that’s it. First of all I, during when I get we’ve got to do two sessions here, I’ve got to have you back on because I haven’t had a chance to talk about your book and I want to I want I’m going to talk about it just a quick bit here. And then I want to have you back on to talk about your book. Because I think that is, is so it’s what you talk about and for Listen for anybody listening, right? I just want to give you a quick read on this. It’s on Amazon, it’s called the five F words F words to manifest your life. And here is what some of the people had to say about the book. Every page locks unlocks a mystery, most meaningful 83 pages I’ve ever read is another one, the book that makes you feel like you can do anything. Here’s another one. A true must have to light a fire in you and I. So I want to have you back on. And I want to do and I want to talk about the book because we haven’t had a chance to do it. Do you know, it’s worse?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:01:07
Can I Can I just say real quick? Like, yeah, I’m not an author. And the only reason why a book came about was because I started talking to beauty school students in 2019. And I just about my career, how I got to LA just like what we talked about earlier. And then, you know, during my presentation, I’d be like, You got to figure out what you want. You got to focus, you got to fear, you know, take fearless action, feel it existing and faith. My five apps, right, yeah. And it was them saying, I felt so inspired after you spoke and do you have a book? Do you have something that like they needed more? Right? And normally, like in my book, I’ll say you’ll hear it two three times, you know, you need to do it. That’s like the universe saying you got to do it. This took five because I’m like, oh my god, I’m not an author. So that’s how it came about. And I actually hired to Suzanne Mulroy, she worked for Malaysia, for many years, helped me put together my keynote for the five apps. And so when I was ready to write the book, her and I wrote it together. Oh, that’s awesome. Yeah, she was my writing coach, as she I want

Chris Baran 1:02:31
to have you back on because I want to talk about that. And I’m just going to wrap up this session just with our kind of our rapid fire. Just and just so I’ll throw it throw it out. And just whatever comes to your mind. One word, two word quick sentence answers. Okay. What turns you on in the creative process?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:02:55
Challenges? Hmm.

Chris Baran 1:02:56
And what stifles it.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:03:00
Not having a team with me.

Chris Baran 1:03:04
Most thing in your life that you disliked the most? And just in life in general.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:03:16
I don’t know. The thing. I don’t like it. Well, I don’t like COVID. And I don’t like politics.

Chris Baran 1:03:24
Me neither. And then a thing in life that you love the most.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:03:30
Oh, my family I love bingo.

Chris Baran 1:03:33
my faves. Most difficult time in your life.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:03:40
I’m gonna say it was the diagnosis with cancer.

Chris Baran 1:03:44
Yeah. Only imagine thing that you you dislike the most about our industry.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:03:53
The backstabbing and people who aren’t on our wavelength.

Chris Baran 1:03:58
And you can tell my era and how old I am. If you’re just listening by the mere fact that I said bingo. thing, that thing that you that you like most about our industry? I love

Jerilynn Stephens 1:04:11
the collaboration, the artistic creativity.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:16
Yeah, yeah,

Chris Baran 1:04:18
I’m just I’m gonna swing back to one thing that we talked about earlier. What I love about our industry is how we have people in our industry that guard everything, and they won’t tell the secrets. And then other people that are an open book, just like we talked about, here’s the things that I did. And what I love about our industry is how other people, you know, if you’ve got a problem, you can go to somebody else in our industry, and they’ll just give you the answer for it. And you go God, thank you so much. It was amazing. Yeah. A living a person that you admire the most.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:04:53
Oh my gosh,

Chris Baran 1:04:56
I’m sure there’s many but there’s one that comes to mind. Well

Jerilynn Stephens 1:04:59
sambia All right. He is amazing. Yeah,

Chris Baran 1:05:03
Mr. Via is the man. Proudest moment of your life?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:05:10
Kicking cancers ass,

Chris Baran 1:05:11
huh? I love it. There’s another F word we can do with cancer. Yes. Okay person that you wish you could meet living or dead

Jerilynn Stephens 1:05:26
oh that’s so hard. Who How about you? Oh,

Chris Baran 1:05:37
I can make that happen. I can make that happen. I can make that happen and I’ll trade you. Because one day I’d love to either be not you know, help you on a set or when you’re doing a wig you know, how can we trade off on on I’m learning from one another that would be like a real

Jerilynn Stephens 1:05:58
heartfelt or an education class that you’re doing.

Chris Baran 1:06:03
Okay, I’m gonna I’m gonna send you I’m gonna send you an invite when we have our next Chris camp and and it’s also on facilitation etc, etc. And I’m gonna get you you can come out and and see that I’ll make that happen. Something that people don’t know about you.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:06:24
Huh? Oh, yeah. Okay.

Because pretty much I’m an open book, but I’m super insecure about my body in menopause. Oh,

yeah.

Chris Baran 1:06:43
Yeah, well, I think you know, I think insecurity whether it’s about that or other things I know I’m basically insecure I think in our industry, especially when you’re in the limelight. I think you insecurity is very easy to come. But let me ask you this. Do you ever get in? This is just a side note. Do you ever get impostor syndrome? Oh, yeah.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:07:04
Yeah,

there’s a lot of times where I’m like what makes me think that I can be doing this right. And but yeah, it’s like well, but you can somebody else. Yeah,

Chris Baran 1:07:17
and the point is at the end of every time you ask yourself just say bye can that’s the point there okay, months off. Where would you go? What would you do? Oh, Italy hmm my fave

Jerilynn Stephens 1:07:34
Yeah, hands down.

Chris Baran 1:07:35
Oh, yeah. Where were in Italy Do you like the most?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:07:38
I love Florence.

Chris Baran 1:07:40
Oh, frenzy.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:07:42
I love it.

Chris Baran 1:07:44
Yeah, it’s beautiful there it’s one of my favorite pieces normal my wife when I just said what that’s one place we always want to retire. Have a vineyard not make the wine just drink it? Yeah. Okay, your greatest fear

Jerilynn Stephens 1:08:03
I guess

not being Oh Goddess as bad not being as successful as I want to be

Chris Baran 1:08:13
on a tight budget. But that

Jerilynn Stephens 1:08:15
means like and helping and making the biggest impact that I can with women.

Leave your legacy. Yeah, yeah.

Chris Baran 1:08:28
You do some of that already. I’ve seen I’ve seen that in what you do in the causes that your former Okay. Favorite curse word? Fuck. And cancer after that right? Yeah, six my favorite. Your favorite comfort food?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:08:44
Oh, oh, favorite comfort food. I love Oh my god,

I love anything carbs. So

I’m gonna say pizza. Huh? Good pizza though. Yeah,

Chris Baran 1:09:01
if you could change one thing about yourself what would it be

Jerilynn Stephens 1:09:16
Oh,

I know. I know. Be better at tracking my finances and budgeting like you know in the apps and stuff. I’m not I’m old and I need I really wish I was better at that.

Chris Baran 1:09:31
Your most treasured possession

Jerilynn Stephens 1:09:34
hmm it’s gonna have to be my family. My possession now. So

I guess my home Nice. Yeah.

Chris Baran 1:09:47
Something in the industry you haven’t done yet but you want to.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:09:52
I would like to department had a film.

Chris Baran 1:09:57
Yeah, I love it. Well, Talk to Lee at some time. He’s got Lee who you met my son. He’s he’s in film and they’re working on some. So we’ll set up one do over in your life and everybody always gives me Well, I wouldn’t be who I am and all that. But if you could have one do over in your life, what would you do? Oh,

Jerilynn Stephens 1:10:17
I would have invested in Starbucks in the nine. Oh,

Chris Baran 1:10:19
yeah. An apple. Yeah. Okay, tomorrow, you couldn’t do hair? What would you do?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:27
Educate. Nice.

Chris Baran 1:10:32
Okay, so last blessing. What if you could have one wish for our industry? What would that be? And you could snap your fingers and it would be done. What would you what would you wish for?

Jerilynn Stephens 1:10:51
I guess no.

The Nope. Back set. Like everybody is always collaborating and helping and lifting and sharing and, and, you know,

Chris Baran 1:11:02
yeah, yeah. I love it. dearly. I just want Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Jerilynn Stephens 1:11:08
I don’t think we’re getting better with that, though.

Chris Baran 1:11:11
I think that no, I think that what I see, I think is because of this reaching out. I’ve found that I’ve learned more about other hairdressers in our industry cross brand cross. What’s the word I’m looking for talents, like what you knew, usually everything that we did back then I just only hung around with people that I knew from my industry. They were they were either in the salon or worked with the company that I worked with, or I worked around, but I find so many people are that that that curtain that goes around you that separates you from other businesses, I find this coming down. And people are just talking to one another more, which I love. I

Jerilynn Stephens 1:11:54
think it’s social media to being able to like you and I right now. Yeah, being able to see each other and talk to each other. And yeah, the sharing part of it.

Chris Baran 1:12:06
Yeah. And I think that’s the more that we can do to look at our industry as a whole to make it better as a whole and as a group is is if that’s the end game rather than look what I do look what you do and I just don’t like that other stuff. But Jerry Lena, first of all, I think I’ve found another new best friend whether you like it or not but I just want to say from the bottom everybody listening and and watching right now I just want to say on behalf of them and me just want to thank you so much. I am Marjorie will be reaching out to you right away. I want to book another one with you so we can talk more about your book, etc. But I can’t thank you enough for giving up your time in your busy life. To be with us and to share. I just can’t thank you enough. Oh,

Jerilynn Stephens 1:12:54
thank you for having me. I’m like so honored.

Chris Baran 1:12:57
Now it was a pleasure and listen, stay tuned. Everybody part Dukes. Part two is coming. Thank you. Thank you